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What picture should I paint on my canvas?
Your query will get as varied answers as there are posts because of the individual styles and preferences of the members. Some prefer a perfectly smooth substrate with absolutely nothing to break the surface while others value the texture of the canvas. Yours is so well done I’d not be concerned; also think when you take close up photos it magnifies the texture more than if the painting were being viewed as it hangs on a wall. Very nice painting.
June 25, 2012 at 7:41 pm #1166051
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I believe this is all about opinion. You’ll find painters who do both. I enjoy looking at a painting, then suddenly ‘discovering’ an area where the texture of the canvas either shows or adds to the picture. It’s engaging for the brain for me if I can go ‘in and out’ of the perception of reality, motif, and oil painting. If that makes any sense.
June 25, 2012 at 9:11 pm #1166044
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Although I do find it distracting in this example, I suspect that a lot of the texture in your photo is from the angle of light when taking the photo, which would be less pronounced in real life. I sometimes like the “halftone” effect of a light scumble, using the canvas texture to create gradation in tone.
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June 25, 2012 at 10:45 pm #1166050
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when you use canvas that is small sized, the texture is more showing forsure. Look from this photo of the paiting, the texture is kinda “standing on the way” in my opinion.
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June 26, 2012 at 12:14 am #1166052
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I think it is a matter of opinion. I do not like canvas texture and prefer panels. Others think it adds to the classic look of a painting and enriches the painting. You should choose. I agree that it is the small overall size that makes the texture stronger. It’s a little distracting.
June 26, 2012 at 9:07 am #1166045
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I don’t know how you got that image uploaded,
the uploader isn’t supposed to allow them over 800 pixels either dimension.
Yours is 1358×1600. That is what makes the page so wide that you must scroll
around to see the whole image and text, a real PITA.
I have fixed this in my post by truncating my sentences.
Picresize is an easy online program that you can use to crop and size your photos with, then upload.
Canvas texture can be lovely, professional photo companies like Olan Mills
even print portraits on canvas texture because it looks good.
I don’t mind seeing the weave at all. Variety is always a nice thing in
paintings and some parts can be exposed while others covered with impasto.
Not only canvas weave but the strokes of gesso primer coating showing
through can look real neat in textural paintings.
Linen weave is much different that cotton and it is preferred by many,
cotton being very regular and boring whereas linen is a nice somewhat random weave.
I like both types of texture, but then I like all types of styles.
June 26, 2012 at 3:04 pm #1166053
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I apologize for the image size; i have reported my post for a mod to resize it (I see no edit button for myself). Also, thank you all for your input. Would the texture in this new photo be perhaps less overbearing?
June 27, 2012 at 8:09 am #1166046
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very beautiful, texture and all!
thanks for the fix, it is great now.
Fortunately, the fix couldn’t be easier in either case.
not exactly a fix at all, it is the ratio of the image size to the text size that is the problem.
unfortunately for us older aging visually challenged arteests, we can’t deal with the next higher res because shrinking makes it way too hard to read the text!:o
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Why we shouldn’t patch it up: how labels and patches on canvas tears distort paintings
If you ever have a stroke of bad luck and accidentally punch or tear your canvas painting, don’t patch it up. Holes and tears in stretched canvases can happen and patches can seem like an easy fix but are not recommended. Likewise, adhering labels with information about the painting on the reverse is generally a good practice, but the label should not be placed on the canvas itself.
Distortions
The reason why patches and labels are simply not a good idea is planar deformation. Planar simply means a flat surface or plane and translated to canvas paintings planar deformations refers to distortions such as bulges or plateaus. These are a common consequence of gluing patches or labels to the back of canvases. Their outlines can become visible as distortions, on the front of the painting and thus disturb the aesthetic of a piece.
Different Adhesives:
Patches are never a great solution, but one of the worst choices for a glue would be animal glues such as hide glue or fish glue. Animal glues are greatly appreciated for their tightening effect when used as a size in canvas preparation, but this effect exacerbates planar canvas deformations when used for patches (Image 1). Additionally, animal glues are extremely hygroscopic and will cause the canvas fibers to swell and shrink as the temperature and humidity levels rise and fall, thus adding to the problem. Compared to our test with animal glue (rabbit skin glue), acrylics (Soft Gel Gloss) caused less planar deformation (Image 2), and our test with microcrystalline wax also caused less deformation than the animal glue (Image 3).
Priming and Paint Layers:
Distortions can occur regardless of the type of priming and paint layers. We tested cotton canvas prepared with acrylic gesso and painted with a number of layers of Fluid Acrylics (Image 4), as well as a linen canvas prepared traditionally with rabbit skin glue size and Williamsburg Oil Ground (Images 5 & 6). Between the two patches on the linen canvas the one adhered with animal glue caused again, greater planar deformations, as can be seen in the raking light images.
Synthetic Canvas vs Natural Fiber Canvas:
Patches on synthetic canvas can distort just as much as on natural fiber canvases. In our tests we applied two patches to a polyester canvas. For one patch we used Rabbit Skin Glue (Image 7) and for the other patch, Soft Gel Gloss (Image 8). The patch adhered with the Soft Gel caused significantly less deformations.
Feathering Out Edges:
Feathering out the edges of a patch theoretically can help to reduce distortions, but I have seen many patches on old paintings with significant distortions, despite feathered edges. The idea is to create a gradient transition of stresses from the patch outwards into the rest of the painting, so that the outlines of the patch would not transfer to the front. However, if the patches consist of thick and stiff enough materials and the adhesive is applied thickly, feathering out edges does not always prevent planar deformations, as can be seen in Image 9 and in Image 4.
All or Nothing:
Nothing should be glued to the back of a painting, unless it covers the entire surface, including the space underneath the stretcher bars. Sparing out the space underneath the stretcher bars can lead to distortions just like those caused by patches (Image 10).
Expect Updates on Our Tests:
Even if deformations are not noticeable right away, they might develop over time. We are planning on reassessing and photographing the same canvases again in one year’s time and posting the results in this article.
Recommendations
- Information labels on the reverse of a painting can give valuable information to future collectors or conservators. These labels could list not only the dates of when the painting was started and completed, but also about the materials used and their layering, especially final varnishes. These labels can be attached to the reverse of stretcher bars or the information can be written with permanent and lightfast pens directly on stretcher bars, but not on the canvas itself. Writing directly onto the reverse of a canvas is not something we recommend, as the ink from markers or pens might migrate through to the front over time and the pointed pressure of a pencil could cause impact damage.
- Use backing boards to significantly reduce the risks of punch holes and tears in your canvas paintings. Informative labels can also be placed on backing boards instead of stretcher bars. You can find more information on backing boards in our article Backing-boards for canvas paintings.
- In case you have a painting which you painted yourself and consider treating it yourself for a tear or a hole, feel free to reach out to our Material and Application Department for tailored advice in your situation.
- If you have a painting made by somebody else or the affected painting is your own work but is sold already, our best advice is to find a Conservator. Painting Conservators are trained to do tear mending and placing inlays, which are a much safer way to treat such damages. Conservators are also better equipped to remove patches and correct distortions, or find other appropriate treatments for your painting, although not all patches are reversible. You can use the website of the AIC to find a local conservator.
As always, if you have any concerns or questions, feel free to contact us through phone or email.
